Post subject: SHOCK! TWO TOP REPUBLICANS CAUGHT IN A LIE! WHA??
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:01 pm
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Two top Republicans caught in an outright lie Monday February 13th, 2006
A Republican staffer has named Frist and Hastert as the two lawmakers that added the vaccine makers liability protection to the defense bill- after the committee had met several times that day, and Dems even asked Alaska Senator Ted Stevens if the language was in the bill, and he told them no.
After the conference committee broke up, a meeting was called in Hastert’s office, [Rep staffer Keith] Kennedy said. Also at the meeting, according to a congressional staffer, were Frist, Stevens and House Majority Whip Roy Blunt, R-Mo.
About 10 or 10:30 p.m., Democratic staff members were handed the language and told it was now in the bill, Obey said.
He took to the House floor in a rage. He called Frist and Hastert “a couple of musclemen in Congress who think they have a right to tell everybody else that they have to do their bidding.â€
Frist and Stevens deny this charge saying the language was in the bill when the conferees voted on it- but if that’s so, why did Stevens tell Obey no? It appears there are several witnesses to the Leaders meeting... this is the top two Republicans in Congress caught in an outright lie, blatantly adding in crap that wouldn’t pass on it’s own.
Frist has received $271,523 in campaign donations from the pharmaceutical and health products industry since 1989, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, a watchdog group.
Remember how Frist slipped this exact same lawsuit protection into the Patriot Act. At that time it was a big scandal, he didn’t even change the font- but literally copied and pasted this tiny item at the end of 450 pages of legal mumbo-jumbo. Now they have the gall to do it again... because they know the Democrats won’t do anything about it. A few will make noise, but that’s about it...
Why are the pharmaceuticals so concerned about this lawsuit protection anyway?
When the hell will people wake up to this dog and pony show of Reps and Dems screwing us all over? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Nothing knew here, this shit happens ALL the time. But I was thinking last night, if our form of Government allows for open bribery of public servants. How can we take the moral high ground all over the world? Because while yes, we are a civilized society and have laws to protect each person. Not all are created anywhere near equal, and money seems to be the only thing that speaks. Especially in politics.
It seems to me that a blatant flaw could be closed up, yet the people that could make these changes would never ever do it. It's like they're all hooked on oxycotton and no one's about to throw away that doctor's home phone number. It's all so corrupt it makes me sick. Reading story after story of these so called representative figures out there raising millions lining their own pockets at the American publics expense. /rant
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Athletic Supporter wrote:
So, democrats wouldn't do this?
Of course they would. But...
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When the hell will people wake up to this dog and pony show of Reps and Dems screwing us all over?
AS you fall right into line with your post. You immedietly say well they're doing it too. Does that make it any more ok? No, it doesn't. It just shows how divisive politics has been made for the American public. Your either a elephant or a donkey. Pick one, vote it all your life, don't ask questions about your own party etc. etc. etc.
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IEB! wrote:
AS you fall right into line with your post. You immedietly say well they're doing it too. Does that make it any more ok? No, it doesn't. It just shows how divisive politics has been made for the American public. Your either a elephant or a donkey. Pick one, vote it all your life, don't ask questions about your own party etc. etc. etc.
Wow you assumed like 10,000 incorrect things. Congratualtions.
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Athletic Supporter wrote:
IEB! wrote:
AS you fall right into line with your post. You immedietly say well they're doing it too. Does that make it any more ok? No, it doesn't. It just shows how divisive politics has been made for the American public. Your either a elephant or a donkey. Pick one, vote it all your life, don't ask questions about your own party etc. etc. etc.
Wow you assumed like 10,000 incorrect things. Congratualtions.
Terrible post dude, terrible.
I assumed that you were downplaying the corrupt act by mentioning how the other party does it too. Which is the most common response when mentioning anything one party does that is shady.
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The Democrats WISH they could lie with the fervency of the Republicans.
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They need to take the money out of politics, but I don't see that happening.
I have thought about this and can't figure out how. Make a law saying you could only donate to a party adn then let the party pick the best candidate? Put a cap on campaign spending?
The only way it has a chance of succeeding would be to restore the federal government to it's Constitutionally limited origins, instead of the behemoth it currently is. Good luck with that.
They need to take the money out of politics, but I don't see that happening.
I have thought about this and can't figure out how. Make a law saying you could only donate to a party adn then let the party pick the best candidate? Put a cap on campaign spending?
The only way it has a chance of succeeding would be to restore the federal government to it's Constitutionally limited origins, instead of the behemoth it currently is. Good luck with that.
Another alternative would be federally funded campaigns. Just give each candidate $10,000 and that's it. But there are a whole other set of problems, like how to pay for it, who would be eligible, etc.
I was reading an article last night about lobbying and was thinking how odd it is that the people who have to abide by the rules also make them. The article was kind of interesting, it basically said lobbying works in the reverse of how people think. Politicians shake down the lobbyists. I'll post it later if I can find it online.
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