surprise suprise who hamas go to after the us & eu pull out money .
Not really as expected the most evill dangerous county in the world with a leader who has satanic hitler like ideas.IRAN STEPS IN TO FILL THE VOID.i have been heaviley criticised for my opinions on iran but both hamas & iran have one goal to wipe israel off the map.& this relationship will bring nothing but more hatred & blood.Their getting closer & closer.

They all want jerusalem & the iran president believes it is his destiney to destroy israel before his god comes back, he believes in less than 2 years his god will return.Iran is closing in on israel & its only a matter of time before a major event explodes over their.I have been critcised strongly, But i believe with israel surrounded buy iran & all their exttremist, israel will look to germany,Germany is the only country that is talking serious & tough with what to do with iran.

i think we have all got to watch the middle east strongly over 06 & just see what develpoments happen over their. keep a watch for hamas & iran to try to get control of jerusalem they want it so bad & israel to look to germany for help as iran close in.

an article from the jerusalem post.


Feb. 21, 2006 19:46
Hamas calls for the nuclear destruction of Israel
By MARGOT DUDKEVITCH


Details released by the Palestinian Media Watch (PMW) on Tuesday revealed that graphics appearing on the Hamas website call for the destruction of Israel in a nuclear holocaust.

On the website, a red Star of David is encased in a black rectangle which is then obliterated in a nuclear explosion.

Arabic words then appear saying "The Az A-Din Al Qassam website exclusively tells the whole story of the most elusive squad [to be uncovered] in the history of the Entity [Israel], in the city of Ramallah." Every few seconds there are repeated images of a nuclear explosion destroying the Star of David.

In an undated interview on the website posted after the recent Palestinian legislative elections, the Hamas military wing vows to continue its resistance. "As long as there is occupation, there will be resistance," the statement says.

Why is this a surprise? Birds of a feather....

Hey davejeni, do you think it would be better if Israel, the EU and the US were to NOT pull funding and then Hamas would not be FORCED to turn to a country like Iran for support?

Why would Israel look to Germany, exactly? At any moment, Israel could nuke Iran off the face of the earth. Even in conventional warfare, Iran or pretty much any other Arab country would be almost immediately clobbered (which would probably lead to feelings of deja vu on their parts).

They do have another option, its not like they have no choice but to wring their hands and go to Iran for cash moneys. Is it really too much to ask for an entity to conceed that the targeted killing of civilians is wrong? Not that I expect them to anytime soon, but the US and the EU aren't making huge demands of them.

Well, yes. But we are dealing with Hamas here.

My point is that you keep your friends close, and your enemies closer, if you know what I mean.

I understand this, but should we now say that there are legitimate and illegitimate terrorist organizations? I'm all for giving aid so that the PA can do its job, its just rather difficult to do that at the moment without it passing through the hands of Hamas.

Fatah=PLO

Not much has really changed here, to be quite honest.

Hamas were never worriad about the us & eu pulling money out they new iran would support them they have for years, all these terrorist attack are supported buy iran.Iran are swimmin in oil their loaded big time& thier very close to getting theor hans on some nukes.
Lets just say iran give hamas 100-200million, they are going to want something in return & we all know they both hate israel & all want jerusalem.It can only lead to violence their both evil, i think if jerusalem is attacked, See palenstian want east jerusalem, so i wouldnt be surprised if they take it by force with iran support possible this year.If that happens i beleive israel could panic & look to the eu. The pope has already said he would love to see the catholic church be based in jerusalem.
all the major religions want jerusalem
We all know none of these peace deals will not work not one has yet, it was a disgrace sharon kicking out jew settlers & how did palestine thank them with terrorist attacks.

IN march israel will hold its elections & with sharon out of it it will be interesting to see what happens, Israel are talking about giving east jerusalem to palenstine, but i belive the people of israel will vote for someone who wont give it away after the reation to the settlers being kicked out we will jus have to wait & see.

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Sorry, but the sheer volume required that response. Not an answer to your points, I know, but there are later points more worth addressing.


The PA couldn't take their local 7-11 by force, and if they tried, Israel is MORE THAN CAPABLE of defending themselves. Israel could withstand an attack from Egypt, Jordan, Syria and the rest of the Arab world quite handily, thank you very much.

yeah? When did he say that? 1095 A.D.?

Well, yes. But one of them has got an army there right now. "King of the Hill", so to speak. Nobody's taking anything by force any time soon.

Sharon removing the settlers was a disgrace? I kinda think that people settling in occupied territory, which is expressly forbidden by the Geneva Conventions, is a disgrace. But that's just me, and most of the civilized world.


What what WHAT? WTF are you talking about, dude?

IF (big IF), if the Israelis gave the Palestinians back all of the West Bank, which they aren't going to do, the one place that will NEVER be given to the Palestinians is East Jerusalem.

punk david said


In a poll recently released 49% of israel said east jerusalem should be released.Israel is coming under pressure from the US ,EU & its own people to give east jerusalem to palestine.The will of israel is getting very weak, look they already kicked 10000 settlers out.& they got thanked with terrorist attacks, none of these peace deals have worked & none ever will.Palestine has irans backing & that worries israel both hamas & iran want east jerusalem & the temple mount much more than israel, their will is far greater.their is no doubt in my mind they will fight for it, that is why i said watch the israel election in march, some candidates are talking about giving parts of east jerusalem up.I dont believe one of those candidates will get elected.They will look for soemone stronger.



Both pope bendict & john paul have said they would love to see jerusalem as international city & would love to see the head of the cathoilic church their.
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[quote]Well, yes. But one of them has got an army there right now. "King of the Hill", so to speak. Nobody's taking anything by force any time soon. [/quote]

Dont be naive their punk david if fighting breaks out between hamas, iran & israel, it could easily bring other countries in.If you dont think hamas & iran wont fight for jerusalem your heads in the clouds.& what happens if iran gets its hands on nuclear weapons which he will.Hes gonna have it pointed straight at israel.The iran president has hitler like ideas, he thinks he is on a mission from god.



in regards to giving parts of jerusalem up you only need to look at news sites & watch the israel election to see what i am talking about here.Many candidates are talking about giving parts of east jerusalm including the temple mount to palestine, i dont think they will give it away, but i beleive their going to lose it.

punk dave said


So punk dave you are saying no violence will happen in jerusalem.
We have a new iran president filled with hate for jews & israel just like hitler was for the jews.He has already said they should be wiped off the map or moved to europe.He belives his god will reappear & his job is to take israel out.This is all before the next US election.
Add to that he has a lot of power with oil & his country is the biggest sponsor of terrorism in the world & is now working with hamas, a terrorist group which has killed hundreds of inncent isrealians & he is about to get his hands on some weapons, only nuclear bombs, no big deal, their only atomic bombs.
You dont think if he gets his hands on them they wont be on rocket launchers aimed at israel.

Can i ask you punk dave or should i say sir punk as you believe their will be no violence in the future in israel or jerusalem, what do you think will happen in israel .You are very quick to slam other peoples opinions so please share with me your thoughts on what will happen with iran, hamas & israel.Buy the sounds of things peace for ever & ever.

Please share i am interested to hear sir punk.[/quote]

You know what? A lot of terrible shit might happen, but what good does it do to shout that the sky is falling? And quite frankly, I couldn't give a shit if Jerusalem DOES get nuked. Call me a bad Jew, or whatever, but fuck that God-forsaken slice of desert. Maybe if the fucking place were radioactive for the next 75 years, people would wise up and realize it ain't worth fighting over.

I have to believe that humanity is good enough to not allow all of doomsday scenarios to come to pass. If we're not, then we deserve what we get. I just can't waste my mental energy worrying about it. I used to worry about this sort of thing, but I don't anymore, because it's out of my hands, and I find a sort of comic element to how bad the state of the world has become.

Jon Stewart's guest last night made a comment about how she watched Bush's first inauguration and cried because she was afraid that he'd fuck up the economy and the clean water. Now she looks back and laughs that her expectations were ever that HIGH for him.

punk david you were criticising my views and now you say you dont give a shit if jerusalem get blasted away.
Why argue if you dont give a shit.
I thought you would come back with a heap of garbage like that.
You know the sad thing when jerusalem does get attacked its gonna change your life & mine.Fighting wont just stay in the middle east, it will spread.

Forget it. Live in fear.

Hamas in power is the result of awesome Western policy and excellent Israeli government.

Amen.

I don't think I could ever stop laughing if a nuke hit anywhere in that middle-eastern region, causing a huge earthquake that breaks off all of Israel and sinks it to the bottom of the ocean, along with all of Palestine too.

Or, come to think of it, it would be equally funny if that just happened naturally. Actually, it would be even better if the Jews all left and gave it to Palestine and Iran, and then an earthquake sunk the whole fuckin place.

davejeni,

If you're not a native english speaker than disregard what I'm about to say. Your posts are nearly impossible to read. I'd like to comment but I can't make out what you're getting at most of the time.

Honestly, I don't care any longer what happens to Israel. As awful as the Palestinians have been over the years, the Jews have more than made up for it on their own.

I don't think there is any reason the US should support either side any longer. Both parties have refused to act in a responsible manner for some time.

It's another case of too many idiots fighting over a buch of make believe stories in an old book. Let them kill each other if that's what they want so badly.