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Five Stars: A Classic 31%  31%  [ 37 ]
Four Stars: Really good 36%  36%  [ 44 ]
Three Stars: Average for PJ 21%  21%  [ 25 ]
Two Stars: meh 9%  9%  [ 11 ]
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 Post subject: SOTM: Jesus greets me... looks just like me...
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W.M.A.


he won the lottery when he was born
took his mothers white breast to his tongue
trained like dogs, color and smell
walks by me to get to him
police man
police man
he won the lottery by being born
big hand slapped a white male american
do no wrong, so clean cut...
dirty his hands, it comes right off
police man
police man
police stopped my brother again
police stopped my brother again
police stopped my brother again
police man
police man
jesus greets me...looks just like me...
do no wrong, so clean cut
dirty his hands, it comes right off
police man
police man
police man
police stopped my brother again
police stopped my brother again
police stopped my brother again
police man
police man
police stopped my brother again
police stopped my brother again
police stopped my brother again
police man
police man
police man
all my pieces set me free...human devices set me free...
all my pieces set me free...
human devices set me free...
all my pieces set me free...
human devices set me free...





Many bands have an odd quirk or two in their youth that they grow out of. For Metallica, for example, it was talent. For Pearl Jam, it was short song titles. And here is one of the smallest of them all, W.M.A. Title quibbles aside, musically the song has its roots in the group’s debut album. The plodding bass and atmospheric guitar sound like it was born out of the same primordial soup that spawned Master/Slave, the piece of music which topped and tailed Ten. But this is a different beast: a leaner animal with a bit more bite.
The animal itself described in the song is quite different to the one described in the corresponding track no. 6 on Ten; whereas Jeremy was a frightened, unloved and tortured creature, this one is undoubtedly one of the alpha males. In this song, breasts are not bitten in rage or self defence but are used to gain succour. With nourishment gained, this W.A.S.P. hits out at others who are not one of the clan whilst avoiding confrontation with its own lighter-skinned kindred. The sense of what is a very human beast being trained like a dog, using “colour and smell” only heighten the very animalistic mood of W.M.A., reinforced by the almost tribal drumbeats, vocals and bass. Indeed, the suggestion here is that “American” can just as easily be changed with “Animal”; a suggestion bolstered when you consider track 2 on the record.
Whilst the music of W.M.A. is of a high quality, the lyrics can leave something to be desired. The chorus is gratingly repetitive and not exactly catchy. Of course, Vedder should be praised when tackling a subject such as societal inequality. However, there is something ever so slightly cheesy about a white rock star singing “police stopped my brother again”; doubtless Vedder would state he means “brother” in terms of human brotherhood, but it still contains a sizeable whiff of cheddar. That said, in other parts of the song his lyrics shine; particularly the “Jesus greets me…” section of the song.
In the end, W.M.A. is an interesting song; a warning defiantly aimed toward the white frat boy following which dogged Pearl Jam during those early years (and beyond?) Sadly neglected by the band in later years (save during paltry Daughter tags), W.M.A. surely warrants a comeback; particularly if Cameron can grow an extra two arms.

3/4 stars.


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im disappointed that the drum track on this song is a loop. i think dave could easiliy have played this out, and it has always confused me why he didnt in the studio. the song on a whole, though, i like.

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I don't think Dave A. could easily have played this out - the live versions proven he couldn't. Jack did it so much better :P

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great...fucking...song


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Bartek wrote:
I don't think Dave A. could easily have played this out - the live versions proven he couldn't. Jack did it so much better :P


I predict good things for this thread after this post. :P


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Angus wrote:
Bartek wrote:
I don't think Dave A. could easily have played this out - the live versions proven he couldn't. Jack did it so much better :P


I predict good things for this thread after this post. :P


:lol:

did they even play it with jack


WMA gets 3 stars in the end from me, but a frustrating three stars. I love the music, but the song noodles too much at the end. WMA needs to lose 30-45 seconds and that bumps him up a nod

Juvenal is right--the chorus is a bit ham fisted, but the human devices outro is quite nice and the lyrics in the verses are fantastic. This song does a really nice job coloring the edges of institutional racism. It's not that the subject of the song is racist. He probably isn't. He just isn't aware of the way his sex and gender still create real privelage and opportunity, and that being born a female and especially black, can confer enormous social obstacles to success. The tricky thing is that it all happens under the radar. Naked bigotry and racism is easy to combat. When it is embedded in our social instutions it is much harder to see, let alone address.

My two favorite lines

He won the lottery when he was born
Took his mother's white breast to his tounge

and

Dirty his hands it comes right off

Three stars, but with the potential to be four.

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stip wrote:
Angus wrote:
Bartek wrote:
I don't think Dave A. could easily have played this out - the live versions proven he couldn't. Jack did it so much better :P


I predict good things for this thread after this post. :P


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did they even play it with jack

they did, but it wasnt too good.

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Juvenal: An excellent assessment of W.M.A. Eddie and the boys do seem to capture a certain slant on the White Male American that seemed valuable at the time. There had been several instances in New York and L.A. of questionable beatings of black men by the local cops. The music carries a sinister, almost threatening rhythm to it that underscores the fear that they are trying to evoke. Yes, seems a little trite in spots, but that is partially a time thing. What might be musically/lyrically appealing in 1994 might not be so a decade later.

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W.M.A. , Glorified G If I had to cut two songs off of VS those would be them. For some reason they've always kinda gone together for me.


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orchiddoctor wrote:
Juvenal: An excellent assessment of W.M.A. Eddie and the boys do seem to capture a certain slant on the White Male American that seemed valuable at the time. There had been several instances in New York and L.A. of questionable beatings of black men by the local cops. The music carries a sinister, almost threatening rhythm to it that underscores the fear that they are trying to evoke. Yes, seems a little trite in spots, but that is partially a time thing. What might be musically/lyrically appealing in 1994 might not be so a decade later.



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stip wrote:
orchiddoctor wrote:
Juvenal: An excellent assessment of W.M.A. Eddie and the boys do seem to capture a certain slant on the White Male American that seemed valuable at the time. There had been several instances in New York and L.A. of questionable beatings of black men by the local cops. The music carries a sinister, almost threatening rhythm to it that underscores the fear that they are trying to evoke. Yes, seems a little trite in spots, but that is partially a time thing. What might be musically/lyrically appealing in 1994 might not be so a decade later.



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Everything from Vitalogy (1994) is appealing 10 years later


And that's why, anno 2006, Ten & Vs. are the band's worst albums. :wink:


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5 stars from me. Has always been one of my favorite tracks off Vs. The music is almost hypnotic and blends with the subject matter quite nicely.

I know they only did it in its entirety a handfull of times, but the version from 4/3/94 can never be topped.

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It would be way, way cool to see them break this one out again.

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Angus wrote:
stip wrote:
orchiddoctor wrote:
Juvenal: An excellent assessment of W.M.A. Eddie and the boys do seem to capture a certain slant on the White Male American that seemed valuable at the time. There had been several instances in New York and L.A. of questionable beatings of black men by the local cops. The music carries a sinister, almost threatening rhythm to it that underscores the fear that they are trying to evoke. Yes, seems a little trite in spots, but that is partially a time thing. What might be musically/lyrically appealing in 1994 might not be so a decade later.



1993*

Everything from Vitalogy (1994) is appealing 10 years later


And that's why, anno 2006, Ten & Vs. are the band's worst albums. :wink:


I'm going to hold you to this in four years on the 12th anniversary of yield

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stip wrote:
Angus wrote:
stip wrote:
orchiddoctor wrote:
Juvenal: An excellent assessment of W.M.A. Eddie and the boys do seem to capture a certain slant on the White Male American that seemed valuable at the time. There had been several instances in New York and L.A. of questionable beatings of black men by the local cops. The music carries a sinister, almost threatening rhythm to it that underscores the fear that they are trying to evoke. Yes, seems a little trite in spots, but that is partially a time thing. What might be musically/lyrically appealing in 1994 might not be so a decade later.



1993*

Everything from Vitalogy (1994) is appealing 10 years later


And that's why, anno 2006, Ten & Vs. are the band's worst albums. :wink:


I'm going to hold you to this in four years on the 12th anniversary of yield


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adamdude wrote:
stip wrote:
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Bartek wrote:
I don't think Dave A. could easily have played this out - the live versions proven he couldn't. Jack did it so much better :P


I predict good things for this thread after this post. :P


:lol:

did they even play it with jack

they did, but it wasnt too good.


Don't want to start another Dave A. vs Jack battle. It's a question of personal taste, so the best solution is for everyone to compare by her/himself:
Dave Abbruzzese's "W.M.A." mp3 05/13/93 - Slim's Cafe: San Francisco, CA
Jack Iron's "W.M.A." mp3 02/18/95 - Izumity 21, Sendai, Japan

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4 stars. Really cool sounding track. Love that drumbeat regardless of how it's played.

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W.M.A. , Glorified G If I had to cut two songs off of VS those would be them.


Blasphemy I say!


WMA is a highlight of VS for me. I'd agree with stip that it probably is a bit too long, but other than that I don't have a complaint about it. It is one of the reasons that, when selecting a PJ CD to listen to, that I would pick Vs over something else. It's also a great song to put on an exercise mix.

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5 stars

When I hear it, I think "quintessential (sp) Pearl Jam"

Then again...that pretty much goes for anything off Ten or Vs. for me.

Not quite up there w/ Even Flow....but decently close.

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2 stars. boring. there's no magic to this song. yeah, it may sound funky or tribal at first, but that's about it/

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