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Post subject: Re: SOTM #107 Won't Someone Save the World....
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:27 pm
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Musically ½ Full has always reminded me of Red Mosquito (and to a lesser extent Dissident) with Mike just playing leads over the dirty riff that drives the rest of the song. I love it on Red Mosquito but for whatever reason I’m just not as into it on ½ Full, and I’ve never quite been able to place exactly what it is about the studio version of this. But it’s not the song itself, since I LOVE it live. It has a looseness and playfulness to it that it is missing in the studio version.
Lyrically ½ Full is a hybrid of Eddie’s Daniel Quin and Howard Zinn influences—fusing the insights and messages of both into a critique of society that address Zinn’s Marxist criqitiue of power and inequality and Quinn’s warnings about the consequences of our self-emancipation from the laws of nature. However, it is one of those times where the sentiment and what he alludes to is more intelligent and nuanced than what he actually wrote down.
He’s stronger with the first verse, evoking Quinn. The awareness of the totality of nature as a system that we are bound to, despite our best efforts to master it—and the recognition that if we do not acknowledge our connection to it we will be forcibly removed. The balancing the world on its knee image is evocative here—we’re children in the lap of something far greater than ourselves, and like a parent it can keep us bouncing happily on its lap, or drop us off if it is so inclined. But the choice is not ours to make.
As is usually the case, Eddie falls apart a little bit once class and inequality come into play. The ½ full of shit lyric is clever, but Eddie, as is often the case, gets overwhelmed by what is so self-evident to him. His instincts are often correct—yes the system is exploitative and unfair, but the problem is either so obvious or so enormous to him that he just can’t get his mind around it and say something insightful about it—instead he just repeats slogans. It’s too bad, since he can obviously do better. And the call back reference to porch is just lazy
The weary, plaintive question at the end—won’t someone save the world--is delivered really well and captures perfectly just how dark and desperate and powerless a time 2002-2003 was for progressives---before the rest of the public finally began to acknowledge even the smallest amount of how much a disaster Bush and co have been (note that Eddie is asking for someone to come and rescue all of us when in almost all other cases freedom and emancipation is something we do for ourselves, or as a group—never something passive we have to wait for like it is here), and all you could do was howl in the darkness for people to wake up, like he does during the outro jam. However, I would have liked to have that be even higher up in the mix. It gets buried in the music, which may have been an artistic choice (Riot Act is an album about exhaustion as a state of mind) but not one that I enjoy as much as I could
And as with the music, ½ full doesn’t really shine until its live, where Eddie’s vocals have the energy that they’re missing here. This is probably a 2.5/3 star song in the studio but it is closer to 4 live, so I’ll split the difference and give it a 3.
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Post subject: Re: SOTM #107 Won't Someone Save the World....
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:29 pm
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Angus wrote:
Predict the number of times Red Mosquito will be mentioned in this thread. Entries for 1$, winner takes it all.
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Post subject: Re: SOTM #107 Won't Someone Save the World....
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:12 pm
Got Some
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Even as a Riot Act supporter I can not defend this song. Weak lyrics and the music does not make up for it. It always bothered me that a lyric from Porch was used again in this song. 2 stars from me.
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Post subject: Re: SOTM #107 Won't Someone Save the World....
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:04 pm
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3 stars. I think it's the Live At Easy Street version where Ed yells "What the fuck!?!?" right in the middle of the song. Great moment. Not in love with this song though, and I think it should officially be titled "Half Full" not "1/2 Full"
My $0.02
Edit: This song is about 1/2 as good as Even Flow.
Post subject: Re: SOTM #107 Won't Someone Save the World....
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:42 pm
Johnny Guitar
Joined: Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:31 pm Posts: 192 Location: The deepest Armpit of Canada
I've always loved this song live... On record...Not so much.
Riot Act is very fustrating for me because the band just sounds so flat and bored. The Riot Act songs come off great live because the band has so much energy which is a million times greater than the recorded effort.
Two Live versions of 1/2 Full that come to mind are:
1) Easy Street. 2) Chop Suey (Riot Act Promo Video)
I'll never listen to the Riot Act version because of the above versions.
They are far superior to what made it on the record. T he band just nails 1/2 Full live; especially on the above versions. I love the "What the Fuck"? part from Easy Street. Ed's intensity live is what really drives this song home and makes it a welcome concert addition.
Matt, Mike, and Stone really shine on this song live as well.
I absoloutly love the 3/4 time signature on this. It really gives Matt a chance to show off his chomps on the drums
Stone's guitar tone during the "Won't someone Save the World"? part is just amazing.
Mike's solos are always good...but what seperates the live version from the recorded version is the absence of reverb.
It's always a good idea when recording a "Dirty Song" to keep it dirty and leave the reverb behind.
Anyways...
Good Song
5 stars because it's such a kick ass version live.
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Post subject: Re: SOTM #107 Won't Someone Save the World....
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:17 pm
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5 fucking stars baby.
i think this song is brilliant.
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Post subject: Re: SOTM #107 Won't Someone Save the World....
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:45 am
Force of Nature
Joined: Thu Feb 23, 2006 5:10 am Posts: 459 Location: milwaukee
one of my favorites on live at the garden. it's one of the better ones on riot act (it's in my top 3 next to save you and all or none) but that's not really saying much. 3.5 but closer to a 3.
Post subject: Re: SOTM #107 Won't Someone Save the World....
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:12 am
Got Some
Joined: Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:02 am Posts: 2560 Location: Dallas/Atlanta/Savannah
pretty mediocre. I bet its alot of fun to play live. as far as I am concerned thats important for a band to have. that being said, not really that interesting of a song to listen to. kinda a cheesy political statement. not as well articulated as the statements on S/T
hasnt there already been a sotm on this song?
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Post subject: Re: SOTM #107 Won't Someone Save the World....
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:20 am
Master of Meh
Joined: Fri May 19, 2006 11:00 pm Posts: 13226 Location: Adelaide, AUS
2 stars in the studio but the live it can be the highlight of the set, it has the Zeppelin-esque mammoth swing that the more restrained studio version lacks.
I can't even listen to it on record...it's just not the same song. It's a pity as it would've improved Riot Act immeasurably to have this song performed as it could've been...a missed opportunity.
Post subject: Re: SOTM #107 Won't Someone Save the World....
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:02 pm
Yeah Yeah Yeah
Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 2:12 am Posts: 3783
This song is probably at the bottom of the 5 Star PJ songs list.
I love it, especially live. It probably has the most flaws in an 5-star PJ song too. Namely the lyrics...when Ed sings "no middle anymore, it's been said before"...I groan
Although, the Showbox version brings me to chills and tears...I wish it'd go one forever. The last chaotic minute of the song, melts me. So, it might be because of the Showbox version, but this is a 5 star song for me.
The high lights, the solo. I love the breakdown/bridge part into the outro part. (During the "won't someone save...")
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